Greg Gilbert Hates Music AND Poor People
Just kidding, of course. We know you don't hate music.
And most importantly, what's with the embedded pictures? When did we become the cool kids' blog? I thought we were the vanguard of the right wing. Only liberals use visuals... I'm not sure I even know how to embed something.
In all seriousness, Greg, I appreciate your thoughts. You always bring a sharp mind to these kinds of things.
I agree that the list of behaviors I mentioned are examples of Christian ethics. My point would be that if Christians genuinely hold to the ethics taught in the NT, they will have a radical impact on their culture (Wilberforce comes to mind as an example, the church's current stance against abortion is another).
I would even agree that social action/mercy ministry/electing Mike Huckabee are implications of the gospel. But I think that they are inescapable implications. I think Jesus did too. In Matthew 25:31-46, we see the Son of Man coming with his angels to sit on his heavenly throne in glory. And what will he be looking for? What will distinguish his sheep from the goats? Cups of water, food given to the hungry, clothes for those in need. Obviously, the sheep didn't earn their reward by their mercy... so musn't it be the case that Jesus is viewing those actions as the evidence of their saving faith? That's a heck of an implication.
Now, look, I know that in verse 40 Jesus limits the objects of mercy to his "brothers". And Greg, you mentioned the NT doesn't mention the need for mercy outside the family of faith. But in all honesty, I loathe that argument. Certainly the church has an obligation to its own, no doubt about it. I'd even accept that the church's primary obligation is to its own. But when we start to make careful exegetical arguments in order to limit the number of people to whom we owe mercy... well, isn't that exactly what the Pharisees did? Can you imagine standing before the Son of Man, the same one who told the parable of the Good Samaritan, and saying, "Wow, you know, it just wasn't clear in the text. It seemed like we only owed mercy to other Christians." I know my own heart, I know how reluctant I am to show mercy, I know how badly I want to have an excuse not to show mercy to those outside the church... and so I am very suspicious of any argument that justifies my coldness of heart.
Just to be clear, Greg, I am not suggesting that you lack mercy or have a cold heart. In fact, I think you're right that we are talking about matters of emphasis. But I think that the renewed emphasis on social action in Reformed circles is a good thing. As a pastor, I haven't yet found a church member that was too passionate about social reformation and mercy ministry. More often, I have to cajole Christians to simply make friends with a non-believer. I can't wait until my church is so merciful to outsiders that I have to rein them in a little.




Wow, challenging insight in your last sentence, Mike. Thanks for the heartfelt observation.
Posted by: Matt Foreman | Mar 4, 2008 10:37:23 AM
"Only liberals use visuals... I'm not sure I even know how to embed something."
I'm SO telling Team Pyro. ;-)
(Though personally, just between us, I've always thought that Centuri0n was a rank liberal. Your observation is irrefutable evidence that my fears were well-founded).
And of course Greg doesn't care for poor people. How could he? He's not emergenting. The only parts of the Bible he's read are Isaiah 63:1-6 and a little bit of Romans 3.
But then you don't like U2 so you must hate poor people too.
In all seriousness, I think Greg's point might be aptly summed up like this:
Galatians 6
8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. 9 And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up. 10 So then, as we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone, and especially to those who are of the household of faith.
Statement: let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap [eternal life], if we do not give up. SO THEN (that is, to reap eternal life), let us do (that which is included in sowing to the Spirit which is) good to EVERYONE, and ESPECIALLY to believers.
That is, the objective of our doing social justice is to reap that which is the result of 'sowing to the Spirit.' And the emphasis is ESPECIALLY on those who believe. Not to diminish the value of mercy to those who do not; but it does seem to establish a moral priority.
That's what I gathered, anyway.
Maybe Greg read also Galatians 6. But I wouldn't push it; after all, it says on the internet that he hates music and poor people.
Posted by: Mike Jones | Mar 4, 2008 10:57:57 AM
One more thing. Maybe you boys at 9 Marks should pitch in and buy Greg a copy of The Poverty and Justice Bible. Everyone needs an emergent social justice study bible, especially individuals who hate music and poor people
http://www.povertyandjusticebible.org/
Posted by: Mike Jones | Mar 4, 2008 11:13:36 AM
If no one is going to say it, then I'll take the brass and say nice pic.
Posted by: TW | Mar 4, 2008 1:27:28 PM